Posts by Newly Enlightened

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Fading JW goes against 3 Mormons

by Gojira_101 in

well as the title says it.

i had 3 mormons "call" on me a few minutes ago.

this is the first time being on the other side of the door knocking.

Newly Enlightened

I wonder if any of those Elder's went home and thought about what Gojira said? Because I know that they believe there are still modern day prophets in their church. Maybe they'll come join the Conscience Class

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Fading JW goes against 3 Mormons

by Gojira_101 in

well as the title says it.

i had 3 mormons "call" on me a few minutes ago.

this is the first time being on the other side of the door knocking.

Newly Enlightened

That's our girl! Proud of you Sweetie!

That actually could work against JW's also.

If Jesus was the perfect prophet and gave us everything we needed to have a relationship with Him & God, then Why do we need a GOVERNING BODY that would be taking His position?

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WT Nov. 1, 2011 (public) - When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed - Part 2

by AnnOMaly in

out now.. yes, yes, yessssss!

on p. 26-27 they talk about how the lunar positions on vat 4956 fit 588/7 bce!!!.

"clearly, much of the astronomical data in vat 4956 fits the year 588 b.c.e.

Newly Enlightened

This was probably covered on a previous page but Snarky did a very good video debunking those articles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4uDBuwDVv8

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New here

by His Excellency in

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friends

for the record, i am not a native english speaker, infact i recently just started studying english about 18months ago.

so apologies for any error you may encounter in the process of making sense of my logic.. i am from a small village in a destitute and war ravaged african country, 80 percent of people in my town live on less than 50cent in a day and myself included, no roads, no hospital, no public institution, no social welfare support, no national security institutiion, nothing, just tribal factions exchanging agricultural produce and i have always wondered why jehovah would have to put the preaching work ahead of a poverty eradication program at this desperate time of our existence.. .

it was an emotional adventure on finding answers to that question that led me here.

Newly Enlightened

WELCOME His Excellency! Your English is very good. So far today, I have seen post from 5 Newbies, H Excellency, 2 elders, 1 MS and someone else.

WELCOME ALL and Peace be with you in your journey to find the real truth.

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New Member...

by sosoconfused in

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friends

hello everyone, just wanted to say hi and introduce myself.. i am a mid 30's just stepped aside elder, who just couldn't handle it anymore.. i am a 3rd generation born-in and former pioneer and bethelite.

it has been a log somewhat confusing ride for me, but i am finally settling in to realizing that i need to really look at what me and my family are doing.. .

its funny though what really got me here... it wasn't the 40 year old men telling me they were looking at boobies on the computer and hoping not to get in trouble, it wasn't the watching young people bail left and right, it wasn't the ever changing new light etc... but a simple thought.. .

Newly Enlightened

Welcome aboard! I am also fairly new here and as my post name says newly enlightened. I have been a JW my entire life [49 yrs] and yes, I'm from the 1975 debacle, I mean generation.

Being a woman myself, i can understand how your wife might be feeling. I didn't want to lose my family who are all JW's. I kept saying to myself 'What if I'm wrong and this really is God's organization? So I would pray for guidance and truth and continue my research and just kept finding more and more scandals & lies. The Reasoning book pg 89 was a big one for me. The missing [...] from the quotation from the Imperial Bible Dictionary was pointed out to me by a dear friend. I put the link below so that you can calmly show your wife what the reference book REALLY says. It's very much pro-cross and the WTS took the information out of context and fabricated a lie.

Zoom in so that you can see the actual wording used: http://archive.org/stream/theimperialbible01unknuoft#page/376/mode/1up

This got my husband and I both to thinking, "If they lied about this, then what else have they lied about?" 2 Th 2:11 "So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they get to believing the lie" [NWT]

Wish you & your family the best on your journey. It will be difficult at first but you will feel freer than you ever have. Let what Jesus taught in the gospels and prayer be your anchor

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Newbies

by Ding in

jwn is getting a lot of newbies.. if you are a newbie, what was it that started you posting here?.

was it the "new light" on the "faithful and discreet slave" or something else?.

Newly Enlightened

The missing [...] in the Reasoning book under the subheading 'Cross' I got that page from the Imperial Bible Dictionary and realized that the book the WTS was quoting from was misquoted and that they were actually PRO cross! I was shocked that if they could lie about that, what else have they lied about?

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New Member-Active Elder

by Promitheas in

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i'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.

i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.

some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..

Newly Enlightened

Welcome. Glad to hear that you've been researching. Wish you the best on your journey back to God & Christ.

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New here and just sick!

by msconcerned in

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hello, i am new and i feel soooo wrong about being here.

anyway i am an m.s and have been disillusioned ever since the new understanding that came out in october.

i have read many things on this board that i have and also have not thought about.

Newly Enlightened

WELCOME MS! I am also a current JW and fairly new here to this site. i know how you feel. I had a knot in my stomach the first time I came here & it took me 4 months before i dared to start posting. I also had several questions and thanks to this site, jwfacts, jwstruggle, jwsurvey I've been able to figure quite alot of things out. Give yourself time. i do not like the term 'apostate' myself, because I am staying loyal to God & Jesus [i don't like to use the name Jehovah anymore because of the research I have done] I've put the link below that you might find interesting: http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/is-gods-name-yahweh-or-jehovah Here's a thought from my husband who served as an MS for 8 yrs and a regular pioneer for 2- As you do your research, eventually you will discover under the theory 'New light' how many things have been changed, flip-flopped,& reversed thru the years, at some point 2 Tim 3:7 has to be considered. "Always learning, yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth" Pray for wisdom and truth. Happy journey, and remember this...If a man/woman does not hold true to their conscience then truly, they have NO conscience. Sooner or later my brother the allusion will meet up with reality. Then your reality will change just like ours. Shalom

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Revelation 14:3 Who sings the new song???????

by label licker in

in society's revelation book chapter 29 verse 10 on page 201 states the 24 elders are 144,000 and all are singing the same song, how can that be?

in their bible the only ones that can master that song is the 144,000. not the four living creatures nor the elders.

this 144,000 group is standing before the 24 elders.

Newly Enlightened

Then when you read the WTS explanation, it's the most ridiculous sounding thing ever. This puzzled me for years. How can the 24 elders possibly be the 144,000 only in a different viewpoint? Wouldn't they still know the song? Doesn't make much sense to me.

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WTBTS and the Red Cross?

by The Song Remains The Same in

hi all, i'm new but have read an awful lot here plus jwfacts and jwsurvey over the past months, also the coc book.. i'm not a jw (and never will be) but have a wife who is a 'want-to-be' jw.

this is quite a challenge for me as i already had an idea on some of the points jws stick to, but now with everything i have learned about the high-control methods, the changing doctrines, and the cover-ups, it's a real concern.... anyway, i was putting forward the notion that jw's don't help anyone in disaster zones, except jws, or by giving out wt tracts or magazines (which would be really useful to homeless, hungry and cold families).

she didn't know, and doubted it, so i told her to ask an elder if the wt provides assistance at all anywhere.. she reported back that the elder said the wt does contribute to the red cross.

Newly Enlightened

I know that I'm getting 'off' topic but my friend wanted to add something to my comments above that I forgot to add:

The other thing I thought was adding insult to injury was that in the "Hub"- the warehouse where materials were stored, meals served, work groups organized, etc.- they had donation boxes in obvious places! Really? These brothers all paid their own way to get there, took time off of work, paid their own expenses while they were there, etc., and the WT has the audacity to expect them to donate even more!! How much is enough? You know that the "guilt factor" would come into play- hell, even I donated cash when I saw the boxes, felt that, even though I was already doing what I could, if I didn't give more I was being 'selfish'. Oh, and six months of lost work in addition to no insurance/paying my own medical expenses due to the fungal infection I got as a direct result of volunteering my time- I paid for that too.